Affordable 55+ Communities and More
Category: Best Retirement Towns and States
April 22, 2014 — This request came in from one of our members, and it seems like a good one: “Could you please do an article on 55+ retirement developments that are under $200,000. There are so many great places to look at but most aren’t affordable to us.”
The happy answer to this question is that there are all kinds of 55+ and active adult communities with homes available for less than $200,000 – sometimes far below. In this article we will first explore different strategies for finding an affordable community, then list some of the developments found in our database.
1. Existing communities usually offer the lowest prices. There are several reasons why homes in older active and 55+ communities are the least expensive option – with homes often well below $100,000. For one, a new home offers a blank slate for buyers to fill out their dream. Builders help that luxury to happen in exchange for the opportunity to make a fair profit. As time goes on the price of the home depends on many factors, though. Perhaps it is discounted because it isn’t brand new anymore, or because it can’t be modified/customized as easily. The community facilities might not be quite as up to date, or as shiny-new. But note that most communities offering new homes usually have an inventory of previously owned homes as well.
Another big reason why established communities are less expensive is that their homes and infrastructure are starting to show wear and tear. The kitchens might be dated, the roads have cracks, and the elevators creak. The same can often be said about the inhabitants. Active communities start out with everyone about the same age. Fast forward 20-25 years and community residents will have aged as a group. Baby boomers might be turned off by the “older” composition of the community, which gets reflected in the prices. Note that some of the best buys in this market are in communities more than 30 years old. In this case the original buyers have mostly turned over and a younger group, willing to update homes purchased at a discount, is starting to take hold. See our related article with quotes from our faithful contributing member, Old Nassau: “Budget Buyers See Opportunity in Older Active Communities“.
2. Manufactured homes are less expensive. Many people are turned off by the concept, but the reality is that factory built homes can offer all of the quality and features of a stick built home. It’s just a lot more efficient to build a home in a factory and then ship it to the site for final assembly. Folks looking to save should investigate communities that feature manufactured homes.
3. Stay away from the coasts and other expensive real estate. It is unlikely that you will find a bargain community in a town where the real estate is high priced – land is too expensive for that. For example if you are looking in Southern California or Fairfield County, Connecticut, there just aren’t many bargains. But if you explore areas like Florida, South Carolina, and parts of Arizona and New Mexico, you will have more affordable options.
4. Think about the value of the amenities you are paying for. Generally, but not always, the greater the number and the more lavish the amenities, the higher the entry cost. Many times the value provided by the amenities is a bargain – you get facilities and services that would cost you much more if you had to purchase them individually. In our experience HOA fees can vary tremendously. If too high or unusually low, they can even have an inverse effect on real estate prices. Some communities offer more of a “pay for play” model – for example, if you don’t play golf you don’t have to help support that activity. Along with the price of your home, monthly fees are an important consideration in your decision to purchase in one community vs. another. Make sure you understand what community fees you will have to pay, plus any assessments, before you buy anywhere.
Bargain communities
At Topretirements we have reviews of just under 2,600 communities. They are loosely arranged into 3 categories of pricing: lower priced, intermediate, and luxury (many communities have homes in more than 1 category). When we used our Advanced Search to find those categorized as lower priced, we found 505 communities. Note that this categorization is somewhat subjective: some of the communities setting up listings with us have different ideas than others about what is lower priced and what is intermediate. In our opinion lower priced should mean not much more than $100,000. It is probably fair to say that more of the 2,600 communities in the Topretirements.com database are priced below $200,000 than there are places costing more than that.
Not surprisingly, the inexpensive active and 55+ communities are mostly found in the states with generally lower real estate prices. Florida has 192 lower priced communities in our data base, whereas (higher priced) California has 40. You can easily use Advanced Search to look for lower priced communities not only in a particular state, but you can also select by amenity, type of community (condos, independent living, carriage homes, etc.), and size. That way you can create your own custom search and see what the possibilities are when selecting the requirements that are important to you.
Start with our Advertisers
For the record we have at least 10 featured advertisers at Topretirements.com that are classified as offering lower cost homes. These outstanding communities help support this website, so we are proud to salute them for offering homes for less than $200,000:
Holiday Island (Holiday Island, Arkansas). Located in the Ozark Mountains, this planned community at the edge of 53,000 acre Table Rock Lake has 2 golf courses and a marina. Homes start at $50,000 and go to over $300,000.
Hot Springs Village (Hot Springs, Arkansas). The world’s largest gated community has resale homes from $100,000. There is a dazzling array of amenities.
Tellico Village (Tellico Lake, Tennessee). “It’s better at Tellico Village” for its 7,000 residents who enjoy living on the lake as well as amenities that include three championship golf courses and state-of-the-art wellness facilities.
Lost Dutchman (Apache Junction, Arizona). Lost Dutchman is a vacation-style, 55+ manufactured home community. New homes start at $60,000. It has three community centers and a wide range of fantastic amenities.
Serendipity (Fort Myers, Florida). A friendly, vibrant community with a small-town atmosphere featuring lovely homes, lush landscaping, and resort-style amenities. Rentals or new homes to purchase from $60,000.
Sun City Apple Valley (Apple Valley, California). This brand new active community with golf course and many other amenities has homes starting in the high $100’s.
Royal Palm Village (Haines City, Florida). This gated 55+ community of manufactured homes features Venice-like canals and ponds with scenic lakes, park areas and nature preserves. Pre-owned homes from $15,000 and new ones from $60,000.
Gulfstream Harbor (Orlando, Florida). Discover resort-style 55+ living with shimmering lakes, scenic surroundings, beautiful homes and resort-style amenities. New homes from the $80’s and resales for much less.
Alston Park (Bluffton, South Carolina). New single family homes start in just the $160’s and come with impressive included features, beautifully landscaped yards with sprinkler systems and a 2-10 Home Buyers Warranty.
Lawton Station (Bluffton, South Carolina). This private, gated community features award winning one and two-story single-family homes ranging from the $190’s to the $300’s.
Crossroads by Jensen Communities (Aiken, South Carolina). Residents enjoy a carefree lifestyle at Crossroads, a community for people 55 and over in Aiken. Crossroads is an affordable gated Manufactured Home Community.
A random sampling from Florida
The communities listed below have an “intermediate” price point, with at least some homes for sale for less than $200,000. They represent just the tip of an iceberg – there are hundreds if not thousands more to choose from. We’ve just concentrated on a few communities in Florida, our apologies for the many we had to leave out! Note: We’ve pulled most, but not all, of these sample communities from our advertisers at Topretirements.
Century Village (Florida). There are actually 4 Century Villages on the east coast of Florida near Boca Raton. These are older communities with extensive amenities, and sometimes problems. But one thing they are is inexpensive, often well under $100,000. In fact, younger buyers are moving in and reclaiming older units.
Solvita in Kissimmee, FLorida is an example of a community with new homes that sell from the mid $100’s. It has extensive amenities.
Indian River Colony Club, another fine Topretirements advertiser in Melbourne, FL, has homes available for even less than $100,000.
On Top of the World in Ocala, FL has homes from the mid $100’s. This is a very large community with some of the most extensive amenities anywhere, over 250,000 sq.ft. of them.
Palmer Ranch in Sarasota, Florida features homes from the mid $100’s.
Valencia Lakes is a community of new homes in Tampa with all kinds of exciting amenities. They have some units available starting in the high $100’s.
Looking West
Our database shows 50 lower priced communities in Arizona, including the likes of Sun City Grand in Surprise, with its hundreds of clubs and an unbelievable list of amenities. In California, where real estate is usually priced out of sight, there still are many communities where you can buy a home for less than $200,000 (use our Advanced Search to find them). Leisure World Seal Beach is one example. This long established community offers a 9 hole golf course, amphitheater, 6 golf courses, and 24 hour gate security – yet small co-ops can be purchased for as long as the low $100’s.
Bottom line
The happy fact is that among the 1000’s of active adult and 55+ communities that there are to choose from, the majority offer homes for sale below $200,000. In fact there are many communities where the average home is closer to $100,000. Use the tools provided in this article to find a community that works for you.
Comments: Do you live in a lower cost community, or do you have ideas for others that Topretirements members should consider? What do you consider affordable? Please share your thoughts in the Comments section below.
For further reading:
Affordable Places to Retire on the Coast
Budget Buyers See Opportunities in Aging Active Communities
Comments on "Affordable 55+ Communities and More"
Jan Cullinane says:
A few other big players in the active-adult community arena: Del Webb/Pulte(www.delwebb.com); K. Hovnanian (www.khov.com); Robson(www.robson.com).
The MetLife Mature Market Institute found that while consumers 55 and over "were generally happy with their current homes, residents of age-restricted active-adult communities had the highest satisfaction rates."
Guess there's a reason active-adult communities have been around for more than 50 years!
Jan Cullinane, author, The Single Woman's Guide to Retirement
Virginia says:
Hi, does anyone have any information about Sebastian, Florida ? Beach Cove is a name that keeps coming up, Thank you
Rachel K. says:
It's not always just about price either. Like the article states, it's really important that you consider the amenities and services included in your rent.
If you're looking at manufactured homes, it's important to note that there's a difference between land-owned communities, land-lease communities, and co-ops. So make sure you find out what type of community it is.
Remember: Just because the home is cheap, doesn't mean the lot rent is cheap, so make sure to ask!
danne love says:
We are interested in Tellico Village,but are wondering what the status of the POA lawsuits are. In 2012 the homeowners in some neighborhoods brought a suit regarding misappropriation of funds--details are hard to find but it seems to have been about the use of POA funds to subsidize facilities in the development that are open to the public on a for profit basis. And there was a separate suit regarding the development of Rarity Bay/Rarity Pointe. Does anyone have any information on this and on whether these issues have been resolved?
Chris M says:
I am female, 65, and single, currently renting a 1 bedroom apartment in RI - having recently downsized from a home. I am having a terrible time trying to dig out from the internet 'cheap' living places with some amenities for 55+. Being alone, I have one small income, and I am trying to make my savings last. THANK YOU for this article - and how about places like this in the Carolinas? I will be investigating the places mentioned in Florida.
Lorraine says:
Does anyone have retirement information in Jacksonville, Florida? thank you
says:
Don't forget Green Valley, Arizona. This primarily active 55+community with tons of recreational and social amenities for one low annual fee has plenty of homes for sale in all sizes, ages, neighborhoods, etc. that are for sale between 70 and 150k.
Jan Cullinane says:
Lorraine...
A few to consider close to Jacksonville: Nocatee (it's a newer community and has an active adult community - Del Webb Ponte Vedra - inside a larger master-planned community); Sweetwater; and World Golf Village (St. Augustine, but pretty close to Jax).
Ted says:
Chris - You might want to take a look at Top of the World in Florida (I think it's Coral Springs - this is the older community). They have 2 bedroom, 2 bath and 1 BR 1 Bath apartment style 55+ condos in a huge community. It's aging, but I know someone who has a place there and there is a very active social life especially for singles. Everything from State clubs, bookclubs, line dancing, water exercises, pool tables, card games, golf, vacation trips, etc. I have bookmarked it, and have seen one-bedrooms sell in the 30s, and 2 bedrooms that haven't been renovated yet in the 50s. Of course, they also go up into the 80s-low 100's, and I saw a Penthouse unit going for close to $200,000. I think the catch is that their HOA fees are relatively high, but it covers the pool, huge community center, insurance on the buildings and other stuff so maybe it is worth it. A big negative (for me) is the weird entry past a giant globe and so much odd statuary that it feels like a cemetery. The buildings are have country names and some supposedly architectural reference to the country, which is like being in an amusement park. Anyway, people who live there have told me they like it and it's certainly not a budget-breaker.
Sharon says:
Jan: Just curious - Do you have an opinion that you can share on the book Leisureville? (I noticed you mentioned Del Webb...of course, it's hard to talk about planned communities without bringing up the Del Webb options!).
Linda Mccaffrey says:
Does anyone have any opinions of active communities in Illinois?
Tom says:
I just finished reading the book Leisureville - The Villages have been on my list of places to check out in Florida. After reading the book and learning about the sinkhole activity that has been occurring in The Villages (some just this past week), I crossed it off my list of places for consideration.
Editor's Comment: Leisureville is a very entertaining but mostly one-sided book, written by someone a little too young to appreciate it (IMHO). Before you buy into everything in the book you should read these 2 articles:
http://www.topretirements.com/tips/best_communities/the_villages_-_facts_and_opinions.html
and
http://www.topretirements.com/blog/active-adult-communities/why-len-and-ann-think-the-villages-is-the-perfect-place-to-retire.html/
Sharon says:
Tom - Yes, that's one of the things that raised red flags for me too. In fact, there were quite a few red flags mentioned in the book which concerned me, such as the developer's financial arrangements. Funny -- I don't recall spending as much time researching the home where I lived for 30+ years and raised children as I'm spending on research for my last 20 years by myself.
RAYMOND says:
Try Hawthorne in Leesburg, Fl. Been here 8 years love it resident owned 130 activities and marina - prices from 30s up see web site central Florida - security, EMTS ON SITE 24/7 etc
Tim says:
Lorraine, in the Jacksonville area, have you looked at Penney Farms?
ella says:
Danne,
I don't have any information on what you mentioned concerning Tellico Village, other than having heard only very positive feedback on the community.
I do know that Rarity Bay is under new ownership. Here's a link so that you can learn more; hope it's helpful to you.
http://realestatescorecard.com/news/real-estate-news/tennessee/update-rarity-bay-tellico-lake
Jan Cullinane says:
Hi Sharon,
Leisureville is based on The Villages (Florida). The author (Blechman) doesn't like active-adult communities, needless to say. Blechman wrote a clever book denigrating the concept of an age-targeted community. But, the concept has lasted for 50 years, and more are being built. I visited The Villages when doing research for my book(s), and have to say I met many people who volunteered, worked, contributed to the greater community, traveled, and were quite worldly - not the picture Blechman paints at all. Single women have told me they moved specifically to The Villages because of the many opportunities for social support. And, there is a price point for almost everyone. Here is a review of a book that counters Blechman's book: http://www.lakesidepress.com/fictitious-reviews/TheVillagesReview.htm. To reiterate what many wise people say on this site: one size doesn't fit all; there are many options for relocation. (By the way, I'm not a realtor or associated in any way with Del Webb or represent any community.)
Carol Smith says:
We are interested in knowing more about Tellico Village as well. Any one out there to give us the "real deal" both pros and cons? It is a beautiful area and the organization of the website is so much better than say Fairfield Glade re: groups and activities. Newcomer's club seems very organized, etc. Any suggestions on how to try it out on a month or so basis...more than the commercialized "stay and play" package?
Mark P says:
Mike, I wasn't very impressed with Green Valley. It is hardly green at all, pretty desolate and arid. I have read stories about potential water problems in the area. Yes they claim there is some great aquifer there but the water level is dropping. Does this mean they would be building more de-salinization plants in the future? and piping it to AZ.? Did I miss something while there?
ella says:
Carol,
Just a thought. Why don't you inquire whether they have a rental on a short-term-basis you can try?
Vickie says:
Another 55+ community near Patrick AFB. Indian River Colony Club in Viera, FL. Anyone have any info about this community.
Alma says:
Has anyone heard of any 55+ communities in northwest Washington?
Carol says:
We will try that, Ella. We have a motorcycle and toy hauler so will at least camp close by for a bit this summer. Husband has made contact via email with the mc club. Great places to bike, hike, etc. hopefully we will meet people and learn more...Would love if someone from Tellico would post, but if you are there, you are probably not looking at these sites!
Chris M says:
Ted - Thanks for your help, that On Top Of The World is in Clearwater. I feel like starting a discussion for people like me, but I realize I am by far in the minority. Single, female, not a snow bird - will not be maintaining another home up north, want something small, do not want to do yard work and outside maintenance, need an elevator if in a condo apartment type building. Would rather live on the Atlantic Coast, than the Gulf in FL. I've also been searching for places in the Carolinas. Would rather stay within easy driving distance of the coast, the ocean. I'm spending hours everyday online, searching. Most things I click thru to are homes in the $150's to $200's, yes nice, and I could, but not what I want to spend. Not what I really need - do not need a 2 car garage! One car would be lovely! I'm finding it hard to imagine living in a trailer-manufactured home, year round, throughout the hottest summer months. Wouldn't that be awfully, awfully hot?
Vickie - I too came across Indian River Colony Club. They see to have a military quota they want to maintain and I am not ex-military. I wonder how much that costs a month, as they, if I remember correctly, say they take care of everything - which appeals greatly to me!
Jan Cullinane says:
Alma, try this site: http://www.trilogylife.com/
Jan Cullinane says:
Chris M,
Have you considered Palm Coast, FL? Right by the ocean, priced right, and a nice community. Condos and single-family homes.
charlie brown says:
I have lived and loved all over the world, settled down in Mesa, AZ some 20 years ago. Love the hot and dry weather. NO bugs to speak of and no rain problems. Many years ago I lived in VA, loved it. Now in my 70's I need to get away from the desert I love; breathing problems, agent orange related. Need to be near a vet. hospital. Looking to go back to the Richmond area but maybe not in the city. I've looked at the N.C. and VA border towns. Not necessary to be in a 55 +. The cost of living in general is 10 to 15% cheaper.
Small town life would be nice, weather seems to be tolerable. Border states have a definite advantage, tax and everything else; you have a choice. Any thoughts or comments. Looking at South Boston, or Emporia. Later, Charlie
CB says:
Does anyone have any info on living on or near the coast how often do items such as pipes, roof, heat or air conditioner need to be replaced or other related house items, I would be very grateful.
Elaine says:
Chris M.
Look at Wynmoor in Coconut Creek, FL. An older community, but the residents are a variety of ages. Tons of amenities. I do not think they allow dogs, but if that is not an issue, it is an option. Also a very nice mobile home (and RV) park called Golf View in the same area has reaaonable prices.
Elaine says:
PS to Chris M.
there are a number of single females on the list, but a find that you can get good info on the regular blogs.
You may wish to read Jan Cullanine book about retirment for single women.
Svenska says:
Chrlie Brown why, at 70, do you feel you need to get away from the desert? Curious, as I am in my 70's and looking to move to the desert?
Patti says:
Is anyone familiar or living in Solivita located in Kissimmee, Florida? My husband and I just received a brochure and thinking about checking them out.
ella says:
Patti,
My cousin lives there and absolutely loves it. She considers her friends there 'family' and hopes to spend out her life there. She couldn't be happier. Check it out!
Kay says:
Savannah Lakes Village, McCormick, SC. We recently bought a house in SLV for under $150,000. The 1800 sq ft home built in 1997 is also on one of the two golf courses. Everyone is very friendly, and they come from various states. We have indoor and outdoor pools, kiddie pool, tennis courts, etc. we're 35 mi from Evans, GA and 45 mi from Augusta. Ya'll check us out!!
Patti says:
Ella,
Thanks for your response. I have made plans to check out the models when we visit Disney in July.
jackie says:
Hi Patti
I am also about to look at Solivita. If you want the name of a great realtor
you can call Georgia Pizzarelli at Artistain Florida Real Estate 863-496-4289, she lives at the property
Patti says:
Jackie, Thanks for the realtor information. We have an appointment in July for a quick tour of the homes before we spend a few days in Disney. This tour should give us an idea if we will come back in 2015 to spend a little more time. Please let me know what you think after you visit. Thanks again!
Valerie says:
Kay, Is Savannah Lakes Village a 55+ only community, or is it for all ages? We are primarily interested in a 55+ community. Thanks!
Kay says:
Valerie, Savannah Lakes Village is open to any age, however, the MAJORITY are over 55. We are 63 and 64, and feel that most of the folks are older than us. However, everyone is very active--most play tennis and golf. The Villagers are also very friendly! If anyone has questions about Savannah Lakes Village, McCormick, SC, you may email me at Kay.potter68@gmail.com.
Vickie says:
Just returned from a week in central FL checking out 55+ communities. The Villages we thought was it and then found out they will not finance with VA. Went to Stonecrest a couple miles from the Villages and not for us. Also, Spruce Creek Country Club HOA fees low but not building any new homes only preowned for sale. Then off to Cocoa Beach to look at the Atlantic side. Since NASA has been cut it has really hurt Cocoa Beach and Daytona so we were told by the locals. Then back to central Fl. Visited Solivita and liked the community but not outside of the community. Everything 20 mi away. Hoping to buy our home in TRILOGY in Groveland, FL. 25 mi north of Disney. Just outide of Trilogy everything clean and new a BJ's, Kohls, Ross, TJ Max, JC Penny and plenty of restaurants. We were really impressed and found out the SHEA home corp took this over and are building smart homes at a reasonable price. Smart homes meaning solar, and keyless entry etc. 2 bed with den starts around 211k. Just sharing our experience. This site has really helped us with our research.
Barbara says:
Vicki, do you have information on Vitalia at Traditions the sister community of Solivita? The homes are reasonably priced and the new 24,000 sf clubhouse is opening next month. The Traditions planned community is beautiful and shopping and restaurants are only a mile away and even more 3 miles away. The beach is close about 20 minutes and you are so close to I 95 it is easy to visit nearby cities like Vero, Stuart, Palm Beach Gardens within 30 minutes. I have a home there and the community is fun and selling homes at a record pace.
Robert says:
Just clicked on and also called the listed site in today's email = Knoxville TN, Sherrill_Hills_
LOL/ the "cheapest" 2 br living is $5100.00 a month!!!!
Sure hope I am rich in my next life = Hmmm, supposed to inherit a "MANSION"
Just have to wait until then.
You Retirees must have a lot of money and deep pockets and Yes I am jealous.
Robert
Elaine says:
Robert, RLC certainly doesn't sound cheap...saw this in a Raleigh, NC newpaper since one is starting there..."Rental rates at RLC’s newest community in Knoxville, Tenn., start at around $2,530 per month, which includes most utility costs, three daily meals, weekly housekeeping, social activities and transportation services. RLC also has financing options available" So some who need meals, etc may find it cost effective. I would be curious about the average age of residents.
Vickie says:
Barbara, did a little research on Vitalia but really wanted to be in central FL Since my husband is retired military we were interested in checking out Patrick AFB near Cocoa Beach. One of the main things we like about Trilogy is the solar and the smart home concept.
Kathy says:
Robert: I agree! Very bad planning on my part so I have no one to blame but myself.
Godsgirl says:
Robert, I so agree with you. Most of these places are outrageously priced, and fees, insurance and whatnot add up. Even when one has the money, it doesn't mean one has to squander it on overpriced communities. Its true, chances are you get what you pay for, but that should be within reason. Do your research, making sure you know if and how often these rates are increased. Happening upon a "community meeting" were residents were outraged about yet another hike, made us look deeper.
We like to spend our money the way we wish to.
Celecel says:
Can anyone tell me about living in Trilogy, Rio Vista, CA? I wonder if it's too isolated.
Cindy says:
Looking for info on Encanterra, San Tan Valley, AZ.......anyone have knowledge about this area...southeast valley of Phoenix/Mesa.
Valerie says:
Hi, We would sincerely appreciate it if anyone who is a resident of Lakeside Crossing in Conway, SC could please weigh in on how you feel about living there in this community? We have already visited the property, so we are aware that it is manufactured housing and that the residents, as such, don't own the land -- they only lease it. However, we would really appreciate hearing from anyone out there who is either currently living there, or from anyone who may have lived there previously. Thanks in advance for any information that you are able to give us.
Dave says:
Godsgirl is right about the pricing. I truly believe most ALL of the 55+ communities are over
priced and that pricing is based on the fact that retires have been saving and the developers
see us as cash cows and that we should all just say NO! I can't see how the average retiree can
afford the home, pay the exhorbitant HOA fees, medical, food, gas, and travel?! Nope, I'm doing
my research and won't fall prey to their greed, even if I have to retire in place and remodel!
Robert says:
Dave = Ditto. I think most people overlook the park rental fees because of some of the amenities?? If one pays i.e., $400.00 a month lot rent that $4800.00 a year in rent out the window!! Yes, you have a swimming pool and club room but blv me ur paying for it.
Why not purchase a small home say in NE TN/ no State tax and really low RE tax.
Small home would probably run you about $500.00 a year (stay outside of city limits)and the money u save on lot rent would really allow u to take a nice vacation every year.
At least that is my thoughts. Lived in Great modular home parks and know from experience.
Choices - it's all about choices isn't it?
Good Luck,
Robert
LORALEE says:
For Cindy..Encanterra is pretty, but a bit far out from things, I much prefer Trilogy at Vistancia in the North! Depends on whats important to you.
Diane says:
My husband and I are seriously looking at Solivita. We did their "Discovery Days" last July. We looked at Trilogy in Clermont and Del Webb in Orlando as well. Those communities were not as established as we want. Solivita seems to be the right size with residents who live there year round, two great club houses as well. I just rented a town home there until the end of the year as I will be working for Disney. We are hoping our home in IL sells and we'll be ready to purchase at Solivita then.
glenns says:
Dave/Robert - in regard to your comments on land lease communities. We are buying a place in Arizona where the land lease is about $550 a month. The house costs us $99,000 (1,500 sq ft). Similar homes in +55 communities where you own the land go for about $225,000 and up. So I save on: (1) property tax; and (2) price of the home. I get the same amenities in my land lease community.
I'm near a big city, reasonably priced golf courses, lakes, etc.
You're right that it's all about choices.
Patti says:
Diane - my husband and I are going to check out the homes at Solivita in July when we are on a Disney vacation. Since you are currently renting a townhome you are familiar with the area. I have seen some comments that the surrounding neighborhoods are not safe and it is far to go to stores. Do you find that to be true?
John H says:
We were looking for a 55+ condo community in the Palm Springs (general) areas, but find nothing but "old" places with rather high HOA fees. I'd prefer something less than 10 years old but apparently the areas are built out. Is anyone aware of a newer community?
Elaine says:
Glenns, What big city are you near?
Diane says:
Patti, We talked to a lot of people about the area outside of Solivita and I checked out the crime rate as well which is higher than the norm. Residents in Solivita are not concerned with the area outside of it, but the competitors like to talk a lot about it. Trilogy is close to a prison, Del Webb shares the main entrance with an established trailer park - so I think you have to look around for yourself and keep asking questions. The county is building a 10 mile highway right outside of Solivita that will connect to I-4. The highway will be completed in 2015. I currently live in the suburbs of Chicago. There are plenty of places I wouldn't drive to at night. There is a Publix is 3mi away on Cypress Pkwy. The Millenium Mall and the Prime Outlet Malls are about 30 miles away. I don't know of any shopping close to Solivita
Gale Sellers says:
Any affordable communities around Virginia Beach or Norfolk, VA?
Patti says:
Diane - thanks for the information.
glenns says:
Elaine - we'll be in Gold Canyon which is about 40 minutes to Phoenix.
Elizabeth says:
I'm 62 and retiring next year.Wanting to move back to Charleston, S.C. Are there many 55 and active rental properties?
Roseann says:
Would love to see more information for NC....Coastal,Triangle,College Towns etc.
We love the out doors, Art,Biking Lakes, Forest. We are not golf people.
We are looking to Leave LI,NY by April 2015. Any help, web-sites
dashn1 says:
I am 45 an my spouse is 55, an we are looking to leave Long Island, NY and move to South Florida. We have been researching neighborhoods and was wondering if anyone on this list can provide me with some Info, or personal experience about Tamarac. I am in the process of selling my home in NY, and must be on a budget for buying a home down there. I was offered a wonderful offer for a home in Tamarac, and that is why I am seeking out as much info as possible about the area. It is a 55+ community and is in the Mainlands 5 section. I just want to make sure that the area is safe, and the surrounding areas to go shopping are just as safe. Of course one must define safe, but don't want to run from bullets because of rive by shootings, and want to be able to go for a jog in early morning or in the evening and wish to return home without a knife in my back or a bullet wound, Just kidding, just trying to explain that I wish to be in a area that is quiet, safe, tranquil, and your neighbors are concerned home owners who don't think car parts all over the front lawn are lawn ornaments.
Thank You Kindly
dashn1
Elaine says:
Dashn1, I like the east coast of FL and spent time in that area (my folks lived in Coconut Creek and Pompano). I am a single woman and felt safe in all but one small area of Pompano. Walked all the time alone, but you need to visit the area of the house you are considering. Felt safe driving as well. Most areas for local shopping or restaurants and the malls feel very comfortable. It is very built up unless you are right up against the Everglades. Have not been in the area for over 2 years now. Try looking at the Sun-Sentinal on line to get a better feel for the area. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/?track=ss-nav-main-broward
Kathleen Trgovich says:
For those of you considering retiring in AZ, today, June 17, the temperature is 110 deg. It is so hot it is like putting your head in an oven. The humidity is so low also - sometimes only 8-10%. So think it over and come to AZ in the HOTTEST time of the year - June-September. If you can handle the extreme heat, then maybe AZ is for you. If you're fair-skinned tho, better think twice about moving to the desert.
Casey says:
Kathleen,
I agree with you. We are going to rent Aug September and October to check out the "dry heat". I really enjoye AZ and hope to move in the near future. Green Valley area.
Valerie L. says:
Does anyone have any recent information re Lakeside Crossing in Conway, SC? We read that Lakeside was sold a few months ago by its former developer Sobel Co. to Sun Communities, Inc. and that there was also some kind of a dispute between Sobel and the current residents of Lakeside regarding their HOA (or land/lease fees). The dispute concerns the fact that those residents who have lived at Lakeside Crossing the longest are paying a disproportionate HOA fee (sometimes as high as $577 per month) as compared with the newest homeowners (who were paying only paying $199 per month) and are looking for a more equitable arrangement. Just wondering if anyone has heard if the new owner is doing anything to remedy this situation...
Candice Rousseau says:
not everyone is a snowbird. I don't understand why NE can't come up with affordable ,active adult living communities that use lower priced, modular homes instead of unaffordable mansions! It seems that the only places available are the old trailer parks that are run down and disgusting. why can't someone develop lots that would be ready for these homes to be set up. you need not have a lot of land , rather just enough to offer a little privacy and allow the owners to make it pleasant to look at! ( just like the rows and rows of overpriced housing being offered on today's market.). I challenge you big time developers to come up with a plan to help out the well deserving middle class for a change. I welcome any input you might offer. Thank you.
Jan Cullinane says:
A brand-new manufactured home community in Florida - the first in more than a decade: Plantation Oaks in Ormond Beach (Ormond Beach is a lovely area; I live north of Ormond Beach in Flagler County).
Community will offer a host of amenities, gated and active adult.
Priced from $120,000.,
Here's the link from my local paper: http://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20170618/massive-manufactured-home-community-rising-in-ormond-beach
(I'm not a realtor nor associated with this new community in any way - just saw this and wanted to share since there is a lot of discussion about more affordable homes for retirement)
Jan Cullinane, author, The Single Woman's Guide to Retirement (AARP/Wiley)
louise says:
WOW! $8,400 a year lot rent! Would be cheaper to buy a house where you own the lot! Taxes would be cheaper and you could still pay for someone to mow your lawn and have money left over! I know it is 'a lifestyle' but seems a bit pricey! Maybe it would be a good business venture for someone to open a day camp for adults that has amenities without living there!
Skip P says:
Louise you are correct, $8,400 a year for a lot rent? Don't forget the HOA fees, insurance, routine maintenance, etc. If the lot rent is starting at $700 a month, what will the cost be in five years? Wow!
mary11 says:
Lot rents in Southern Oregon go for usually $400-500 monthly, and if you own the land in a park for $155 monthly. We lived in Florida for 10 yrs and the lot rents now are comparable to southern California prices! !
Staci says:
Are there real estate taxes with lot rentals since you don't own the land??
says:
Casey: I will retire in 2018 and plan on renting in Mesa during the hottest months to test the "dry heat". It cannot possibly be any worse than standing at the bus stop in Chicago with a -60 F wind chill factor!!
Laurel says:
$700 a month appears to be the going rate for the higher end mobile home parks. We just received information from a large one near St. Augustine, and the lot rent there ranged from the upper $600s to nearly $800.
Bubbajog says:
$700 per month manufactured home lot rent is considered cheap in the Los Angeles metro area.
Like all aspects of real estate in the Los Angeles area, prices have nothing but upward pressure.
With way more demand than available real estate, there is only one direction regarding pricing for all types of real estate, regardless of buying or renting.
mary11 says:
Staci, yes you do have some property taxes with lot rents but it's minimal. Usually $30 monthly.
louise says:
In CT mobile home's are taxed like vehicles. Each year the value of the home goes down, like a vehicle, and taxes go down as a result.
Jean says:
One caution, if the land occupied by the mobile park becomes more valuable than the income stream from the lot rentals, the owner can sell it and force you and your home off the propery or cost you lots in legal fees to fight the eviction.
Al- says:
Lot rents go up 3 to 5% every year with the interest rate compounding every year. I figured it out on calculator, $700 would be $1000 in 5 year, $1700 a month in ten years, $2100 a month in 15 years, and at 5% it would be $2700 a month in 20 years if the surviving spouse lived that long. That is why so many elderly woman are foreclosed on by the land owner, and are forced out of their home with no where to go in their last years. Rental lots are a tragedy unless you have a big pension in addition to Social Security benefits. Not everyone is so lucky. If your looking for a manufactured home, put out the cash while you still have it and buy into a Co-op park where the monthly expenses are reasonable and affordable in old age.
louise says:
Can we discuss Hot Springs Village? Does anyone live there that can discuss pros and cons?
Real estate taxes are low and HOA is low! That appeals to me. Humidity seems wicked! Looks gorgeous!
Moderator Flo says:
Hi Louise!
Hot Springs Village in Arkansas does look nice! I found in on the drop down menu Find Retirement Towns by State. You can post questions on the forum and find articles by typing in Hot Springs Village on the Google search bar.
Hope this helps!
Phil M. says:
I live in Hot Springs Village and will be happy to answer questions.
Phil
louise says:
Hi Phil,
Have you had tornadoes come thru the village?
How far is major shopping areas for food? What stores are there? Do you have warehouse stores?
Can you drive golf carts to shop or dine out?
How much acreage do the house's sit on?
Are there any alligators there?
How do you like living there? What do you like and not like?
Thank you!
Phil M. says:
There have been three tornadoes in 43 years, and some straight wind shears.
The village is about 18 Miles wide. there is shopping at one side, a small grocery store and a Walmart on the west side. Only a dollar General on the east side. Other shopping is in cities about 25 miles away, including a Sam's Club.
Golf carts are only allowed on the Golf courses and limited travel to and from your house.
We have town houses, hoses with small lots and some with very large lots. My house sits on about 1/3 acre. I would guess the average is about 80' by 150'.
No gators here, it gets to cold in the winter, as low as 20 F.
I love my neighbors, the low traffic, the many clubs and different things to do. I also like that it is a gated community. The wildlife, the lakes, the large inexpensive bridge club, both duplicate and rubber are all pluses. We do have medical facilities with in a short distance.
There is limited shopping and restaurants nearby.
Happy to give more info.
Good health,
Phil
Gail says:
Hi Phil,
I am interested in both Hot Springs Village and Hot Springs. Can you tell me the difference(s) between the two in your opinion? Also, if you were to buy a home in HSV, where is the best location in terms of being close to Hot Springs as well as the other necessities of living? Is there any one place that is better than another? And, just one more question - are people who relocate there accepted by the community?
Thanks
Gail
louise says:
Thanks Phil!
Are there any plans for more larger type grocery stores and more restaurants in the near future?
What about shuttle bus transportation to the shopping that is 25 miles away? Does the Village provide any kind of bus transportation for shopping? Dining? Sight seeing?
Are there restaurants located in the Village?
That is good to hear about tornadoes, however, you just never know no matter where you live with tornadoes and hurricanes.
The Village does look like a very nice place to live. I am glad to hear you enjoy it!
nancy says:
I would be interested in hearing about Hot Springs/Hot Springs Village also. Have been looking at it on and off for several years. It would be a long way to move from where I currently live.
Alice says:
I'll add some negative stuff I uncovered about HSV because this was one of the places we checked out. Please note that we didn't actually go there, so perhaps someone who lives there can negate these comments. 1) Hot Springs Village is showing it's age. Many of the facilities are either closed for repairs or in need of updating. I was concerned this would create a large yearly assessment fee. 2) That because the target population keeps dying off, management has changed their focus from retirement to resort. This may or may not bother you, it did us because we don't want to share our space with a lot of vacationers. Disclaimer: I don't know how correct this info is, it's simply stuff I read online.
Phil M. says:
Reply to Louise - Nancy - Alice - others,
This is not a retirement only village, it has varied population, even about 600 school aged children, serviced by two school systems, that do use buses to pick them up.
The population is growing slowly, sure some die, move home to be with their family in other areas, but their seems to be about an 8% growth per year.
Stores and restaurants come and go, just like everywhere else. The POA is involved with management of some local restaurants, but not all. The stores are all independent and mostly lie outside the village gates, I can not guess their future plans.
There are many churches and banks within and outside the gates. We do have a small farmers market that runs once per week during the growing months.
Their is very little organized travel offered here, except by the retirement homes. A car is a must have to live in a home. There is one "none profit" mobile unit that travel from your home to the local business, for about a $5 each way fee.
We love cooking and enjoy most of our meals at home.
Some people own homes here to rent them out, but most are long time "vacationers", There are no Motels/Hotels inside the village, there is a small town home group that is mostly rentals.
Currently it costs $70 per month in POA fees. I expect it to rise about 10% per year, but may skip some years and be larger some years later.
These are my opinions, I in no way represent any official involved with management of HSV.
Living here is like living in a National Park, full of wild life, hills, windy roads, and low population.
Some areas are wall to wall houses, some are sparsely populated. It is a choice of living that not everyone is suited for.
Keep the questions coming, I will do my best to help.
Good health,
Phil
Alice says:
Phil, can you say how far you are from the nearest military base? I go once a week for food shopping; my husband more than that for his recreational activities. I've read that HSV has one of the largest retired military populations around. Is that true? Thanks, Alice
Phil M. says:
Alice,
Arkansas is good to veterans (I am one), the state has discounts on some of their taxes for us, and there are many local stores and restaurants that offer small discounts. I believe the closest commissary is in Little Rock, about 55 to 70 miles away (depending on which side of HSV you live in) .
There is a Military Hospital in Hot Springs (no Dental).
My guess is by % HSV does have a large retired population, but with only 14,000 here, no one would say we have a large number of anything. (note there are more deer than people)
Good health,
Phil
Jeff L. says:
What taxes are discounted? Hopefully on pension and retirement fund distributions.
Phil M. says:
Jeff,
Personal property taxes, such as auto ownership. It costs me just $7 per year for plates on my car.
Please speak with an accountant or tax planner for additional info on this subject, not my expertise.
Good health,
Phil
ML says:
Wow, sure glad I stumbled onto this website. Fantastic info. I'm from the MidWest, and lived the past 10 years in AZ. 8 in Sedona, and going on 3 years in Flagstaff. I LOVE the Altitude of 7K feet, FRESH CRISP air! But paying $2100 in rent each month. Looking to make a move to a more affordable area. Sorta ready to leave the heat; although that's why I'm in Flag. Hardly gets much over 80 degrees in Summer. Pretty sure I'm ready to leave cold and snow. I've visited FL a lot, but never lived in any of the southern states. Humidity is of concern, awa HEAT. I did like the post earlier about the deer. I usually do nature hikes everyday.
I'm very OPEN for ideas, suggestions, sites to check out. . . etc.
When Ii moved to Sedona, I built then moved. Learned that wasn't the smartest thing to do. So, common sense tells me to RENT for awhile, then look to purchase or free to move on.
Single, Professional Female, Feel 45, just turned 65. Looking for "Community" and sharing fun times. I have checked out "CoHousing" Communities, not sure it's for me.
Linda says:
Anyone live in the Charlotte, North Carolina area, several 55p,us communities there.
Susan says:
My husband and I are considering a move to the Phoenix area for retirement and would love to hear from anyone living in any of the Trilogy communities - both pros and cons. Thank you!
Bruce says:
Susan..... my wife and I looked at the Trilogy properties in Wickenburg and Vistancia. Shea builds a great product from what we saw. Vistancia had just opened their second recreational center and was in the process of redoing the pool in the first recreational center. Very nice amenities, but didn't have some of the scenic views we were looking for.
Wickenburg does have the views and we made visits several times even before they had the recreational center complete. The location is far from Phoenix and the small town of Wickenburg only had an Emergency Center. We also decided since it is open to all ages that having young adults and children using the same amenities that we might not take advantage of them as much. Also found the homes to be a bit pricey.
We decided to build in Victory in Verrado. It is part of a master plan community of Verrado and Victory is the 55 district. Only residents of Victory can use the 55 amenities and pools but we are allowed to also use Verrado's amenities, when our grandchildren visit or out younger daughters.
Tomi Huntley says:
Bruce we are interested in Verado Victory. Is your house done?
Bruce says:
Tome, No not complete yet. We were must put there in late January for a dusty she walk through, which allows you to see things before the drywall is installed. That way if anything needs to be changed it would be the time. Insulation and drywall installed this week, so getting close. Will not give is a closing date until countertops and cabinets are in. We sold our home last year, downsized, and living in an apartment, our lease ends March31st. We hope this will coincide with moving in.
Have you made a visit or done a play and stay? Like the fact that Victory is part of an all age master community. Verrado is a beautiful community with all the tree lined streets and parks. Victory following the same type of plan of local parks and tree lined streets. Being able to walk and bike in the White Tank Mountain parks was a big plus for us.
Nancy says:
I have a house available for sale in victory, for $50,000 less than it would cost to build with a beautiful view. Victory has a lot of positives but family issues call me back to Midwest.
Nancy says:
ML, Victory is a great place for "solos" we just formed a group and being so new everyone is open to new friendships. A huge sense of community here.
Nancy says:
Tomi Huntley please contact me if you'd like more info, Nancy.cavaliers@gmail.com
Admin says:
From Tomi
Nancy, when we were I AZ in Nov I wanted to check Victory but didn’t. Going back, so will visit it this time.
Admin says:
Victory at Verrado seems like a nice community, and there are some affordable homes by some people's standards. Most of the homes start in the high $200's and go into the low $500's.
Anybody have any ideas about other affordable active communities, either here in AZ or elsewhere in the country?